The Five-Four Pod

5-4 is the only podcast I really listen to. It's a good look into the US legal system, and the folks are funny. I learned about em via Peter on Twitter. For now, I'm mostly just going to backup some tweets if I find any. But check out the pod, it's a good one!

Peter

aka @The_Law_Boy, America's daintiest lawyer, who also makes a podcast called If Books Could Kill.

Aug 29, 2018 (src)

Girls don't want a "real man," they want a law boy.

May 15, 2021 (src)

one military tactic i'm learning about is you trap your enemy in a small area full of civilians and then you just call every civilian you kill a "human shield"

crazy that sun tzu missed this one

Jun 8, 2021 (src)

you: wow the wealthiest billionaires on earth really don't pay much in taxes

intelligent business guy: uh that's actually due to an aggregating series of legal technicalities you fucking idiot

Jun 26, 2021 (src)

conservatives love to harp on crime in liberal cities because they have a fantasy wherein liberals are violently punished for naively trusting minorities

this is imo largely distinct from the phenomenon of wealthy liberals fretting over crime in cities, which is primarily the result of them being pussies

Jun 30, 2021 (src)

a lot of people are trying to understand why Bill Cosby is being released from prison. as an experienced attorney i can explain: he is extremely, extremely rich

Aug 2, 2021 (src)

the night that trump got covid was the closest we'll ever be to everyone on twitter just being in a stadium together doing the seven nation army chant

Nov 20, 2021 (src)

apparently the female members of NYU's Federalist Society board resigned after the group voted to host "anti-choice" speakers. which really makes me wonder what those ladies think the Federalist Society is

"as people who hold every reactionary position except for when they negatively impact us, we were appalled"

Dec 19, 2021 (src)

one of the weirdest things about modern democratic messaging is that post-hillary it's mostly built around putting the moral onus on voters to support dems, rather than on elected officials to do shit people want them to do

Jan 6, 2022 (src)

if the anti-school closure people just said like "my kid has been stuck at home with me for two straight years and if i'm subjected to one more day of it i'm gonna lose my goddamn mind" i would respect that a lot

Feb 9, 2022 (src)

you really shouldn't have taken on so much debt for college, you brought this on yourself

• guy who risked his life to hold down a square mile of iraqi desert after hearing a 15-minute pitch in a shopping mall

Mar 23, 2022 (src)

rip madeleine albright. from being a refugee to creating millions of them, she truly embraced the full spectrum of the human experience

Apr 13, 2022 (src)

as part of our effort to make new yorkers feel safer on the subway, every station will now have 4-5 guys with guns who are legally allowed to kill you

Apr 29, 2022 (src)

my best guess as to why so many people seem to think the far left is ascendant is that they were made to attend a single corporate diversity training and lost their fucking minds

May 3, 2022 (src)

it is time to make roe v. wade permanent by putting it on the blockchain

democrats have had 50 years to do this. no excuse.

May 3, 2022 (src)

n all the handwringing about the court leak i have not seen a single coherent defense of what concrete interests are actually served by keeping draft opinions confidential. if justices are merely doing the objective and impartial practice of law, what does it matter?

every conservative whining about this is speaking entirely in abstraction. some intangible and unquantifiable damage was done to the court. can someone explain what specific problems this would lead to?

May 8, 2022 (src)

sorry, but protesting outside of justices' homes is not the right way to voice your disapproval of the court. the proper course is to pour billions of dollars of dark money into building institutions that steadily subsume the judiciary over the course of several decades

May 9, 2022 (src)

when discussing the propriety of protesting outside of supreme court justices' homes, it's important to remember that in the 90s the court held that protesting outside of the homes of abortion clinic employees is protected by the first amendment

there's been chatter about 18 U.S. Code § 1507, which seems to make protesting outside of a judge's home illegal. i'd think that if protesting outside of some random clinic employees' house is protected, so is protesting outside of the homes of powerful public figures

May 27, 2022 (src)

what seems like an unprecedented deluge of lies and misinformation from the Uvalde police is actually a pretty standard amount of dishonesty from cops. they're just not used to anyone analyzing or questioning their narratives

this is also why police departments will often seem shockingly bad at putting together plausible stories -- it's just not a skill they ever really need, because every political, cultural, and legal institution gives them the benefit of the doubt no matter what

Jun 1, 2022 (src)

outcome aside, the fact that the jury for one of the most widely publicized trials in recent memory was not sequestered is unreal

lots of people responding with "why should taxpayers have to pay for that??!" and i'm a big proponent of fiscal responsibility, so i suggest paying for it by firing one police officer

there were steps the judge could've taken to make this less of a media circus, but you can't have it both ways. if you bring in the circus, you need to at least attempt to keep the jury impartial. instead we got a result that was probably dictated in no small part by youtubers

Aug 25, 2022 (src)

the biggest revelation of the past few days is that while most of us spent 2020 worrying about COVID treatment and transmission, conservatives were committing large-scale PPP fraud

regarding the changes to verification on twitter - Nov 6, 2022 (src)

the conservative stance on what is or is not free speech has never been consistent or coherent, but "free speech except for blue check parodies" is an incredible position to hold. a remarkable feat of the human mind

Michael

Aka @_FleerUltra, also on ALAB Series.

May 12, 2022 (src)

I've been a vote-blue-no-matter-who guy for 22 years and now I'm feeling ready to check out of politics. Maybe that's not a character flaw in me but rather a reflection of party leadership that has been fucking up over and over for 20 years continuing to do so right now

special type of broken brain to see "I've been a vote-blue-no-matter-who guy for 22 years" and then think recycling the same vote-blue-no-matter-who talking points at me is a worthwhile use of your time

Jun 2, 2022 (src)

I legitimately have never been more pessimistic about the future in my life, and I am developing a seething hatred for the people in power who have squandered away our limited opportunity to actually improve things.

before you yell at me about the GOP, I already have a well-developed seething hatred of them

Jun 24, 2022 (src)

the biden admin has had an unbelievable amount of time to prepare for this moment. something to keep in mind when we see how they respond

Rhiannon

May 23, 2020 (src)

Here is how you understand the law: you read the legal question that is posed to the Supreme Court, and you think, what would be the best result for poor people? The Supreme Court will choose the opposite thing. Bam you understand the law.

Nov 18, 2020 (src)

The risk of COVID being fatal to you or a loved one is obviously high enough that it should be motivating people to do all the precautionary stuff but I just want to reiterate--from a young otherwise healthy person--how much I feel like having COVID really fucked with my brain

Attention span is decreased. My memory sucks. I have trouble finishing sentences, especially when I'm using specialized vocabulary. I have to read words and sentences repeatedly to actually "get" them. I was sick in mid June. I don't feel like I ever fully recovered.

Mar 3, 2022 (src)

I got a 12 billion on the LSAT

Jul 2, 2022 (src)

He’s a ten but he thinks originalism is a legitimate method of constitutional interpretation

Jul 8, 2022 (src)

Just drove past the Supreme Court. Looks like shit.

Aug 3, 2022 (src)

If there’s one thing on this planet I know, it’s the Texas Penal Code. So here’s my rare legal take for twitter: I do not believe it was part of Alex Jones’ defense plan to have Alex Jones commit aggravated perjury, a 3rd degree felony offense that carries 2 to 10 years in prison

Aug 24, 2022 (src)

I don’t have undergraduate loans. I have $220K in law school loans. My initial balance was around $195K.

I went to a public law school. No scholarships. I’m the 1st lawyer in my fam, one of the few to ever go to college. I graduated in 2016. My salary at my 1st law job was 52K. I did not break over 60K in salary until last year, when my income started to be supplemented by a podcast

To qualify for public service loan forgiveness, you have to make 120 on-time payments and work for the “right” kind of public service organization that qualifies. That’s ten years of making payments every single month AND working for the right organization (501c3 or government)

In solo practice doing legal work for the poor? Nope. Even though I’ve been practicing 6 years, I only have ~5 years worth of payments because I didn’t work for the right kind of employer (I worked for myself exclusively representing indigent clients).

Extremely common

(quotetweeting Alex Barrio (@AlexJBarrio) here) I went to a public law school and took out 140k. After paying down 40k i now owe 220k. Make it make sense.

I make more money at my job now, but that’s as a result of a lot of external factors I had no control over (and am grateful for!)—i work for a new PD office that hired six people out of many many applicants, and we have pay parity with the DA’s office (🙄 whole nother rant)

I will survive. But just wanted to provide my situation as an example. This is the status of most of the lawyers i know. You’re told “oh you’ll get loan forgiveness for public interest” like it’s nbd, like it’s nothing. I had absolutely no background knowledge or info

Sep 18, 2022 (src)

Police put a woman in a car. And left it on the train tracks. And a train hit the car.

Do police officers need to be taught about trains? What training fixes utter disregard for human life? What will another million from the city budget do to rectify this? Why do we trust them?

(quotetweeting The Kansas City Star (@KCStar), here) Police had just detained the 20-year-old woman after a reported road rage incident. Cops put woman in police car parked on tracks, CO officials say. Then a train came (via kansascity.com)

Oct 11, 2022 (src)

Short thread. I made a really hard decision a couple weeks ago. I resigned from my job as a public defender. I have been experiencing serious mental health struggles for a long time, and in place of taking care of myself, I tried to take care of clients.

I have spent a long time identifying as a public defender, so long that it’s hard now to think of myself as anything but. I can’t think of anything else I want to do other than fight for poor people in the system. If I’m not advocating on someone’s behalf, what am I even doing?

I’m heartbroken. I worked with incredible colleagues, lawyer & non-lawyer warriors who make you proud to show up at work every day. The clients. The families. It was an honor to stand next to, to spend time with each and every one of them. Everything I saw. Everything I learned.

I don’t know what’s next for me. I need to take care of myself & heal. This was a deeply personal choice, and i think that part—that it’s utterly internal, that my brain stopped working in the way I wanted, that there’s no one to blame—makes me feel selfish and guilty.

Maybe we’ll talk about this on the pod soon. Maybe. There’s a big hole in my heart. “It is our duty to fight. It is our duty to win.” I’m going to try to apply this to myself, so I can show out for the people again one day soon. It is our duty to fight. It is our duty to win. ❤️

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